Buying Time
Just when you think you have things figured out.
You may recall that before Christmas last year, my daughter had her third dead battery in a little over two years since she has been using that vehicle for commuting to college. The last time it happened, I bought a battery from a local store and made the 90 mile drive up there to replace it. After I got it going, I drove it to the local dealership to have them do an "thorough" battery test on it only to find out $300 later that their thorough test was to hook a multimeter up to it while running, nearly identical to the one I had used earlier to do the same thing.
She made it home for the semester and then left again for the spring semester without issue. She parked her car for a month out in the parking lot and went to use it only to find out it was completely dead again. At this point, I'm confident that there is some draw being put on it that is enough to use up the battery in a few weeks time. I am not confident that I have the skills to figure WHAT is doing the energy using when the car is off but I'm going to have to learn since I no longer think I can rely on others to figure it out either.
However, I had a more pressing issue. My daughter needed to use the car, the battery was dead and I was 90 miles away. I quickly processed the options at hand:
A. Buy another battery, drive 90 miles there to replace it again and then haul the failed battery 90 miles back home again to try and claim some sort of warranty though there would be no guarantee that I could collect.
B. Call AAA, for which my daughter has a membership thanks to my planning ahead, and let them sort it out.
I obviously went with the B option, but soon got a call from them stating that the battery's health was only at 13%. They recommended replacing it which would cost me another $200+ dollars. I reluctantly agreed. Had I been thinking about more than the sorry state of my wallet, I might have asked them to put the failed battery in the back of the vehicle so I could pick it up the next convenient time and still try to get a warranty refund out of it but I didn't think of that until it was too late. What did cross my mind was that spring break (at the time of this event) was still a month away and seeing that a month was all it took to deplete the previous battery down, I still needed to come up with a solution.
So on a very frigid day when the temps were only around the low teens and with 40 mph winds so it felt like it was way below zero, I set out with the above device with the red circular knob connected to the right (negative) battery terminal called a shutoff switch. When the knob is as shown above, the battery is essentially completely disconnected from the vehicle. To start the vehicle now, one has to use the manual key out of the fob to open the door and pop the hood so that the knob can be turned and the car then started. A pain, but no more than she drives the thing, it should be much more convenient than coming out to a dead battery and spending a couple hours and $200+ to start it every time.
I got the switch installed in about five minutes and by then, I was extremely chilled despite wearing heavy wool lined gloves and my heavy weight Carhartt jacket. After showing my daughter how to operate it, then taking her out to eat and using our credit card to stock up on snack foods for her dorm room, we drove the 90 miles back home.
I'm not sure I'll be able to spend time over upcoming spring break to work on her car but hopefully this buys me time until summer. Hopefully by then, YouTube and Google will teach me how to solve this problem once and for all.
[A real time update: my daughter was able to turn the knob and start her car to use it yesterday to do some shopping for dorm supplies after sitting unstarted in the parking lot for three weeks.]

It’s an odd thing. You get charged a lot for having no charge.
ReplyDeleteHey, I’m trying. 😄
Thanks Dad, I always appreciate your wisdom!
DeleteWow. In New Home we had battery drain due to the heat, but nothing like that.
ReplyDeleteSince it is an older car, I think something electronical has shorted out and thus causing the drain but figuring out what and then if it can be fixed is a story I'll have to write at some point.
DeleteI don't know if it is just they way that newer cars are wired, but my experience has been that anything with newer touchscreen technology seems to have very poor battery life. Of the cars that I've owned, the last two have taken batteries down to a marginal state in just a couple of weeks standing unused, even after disabling everything that I could find in the various menus (including alarms etc). I find that I need to do at least a thirty mile trip every week to be sure that the car will always start when needed.
ReplyDeleteThis vehicle is on the leading edge of it back then and does have a small in-dash display but the only thing I can see that is on when the car is off is a dashboard clock. I do wonder however what happens when I fly overseas for a few weeks in one of our newer vehicles and have to leave it in an airport parking lot if it will start when we return. I may install another one of those switches in it just to be sure.
DeleteJohn has had this issue with his Subaru, fortunately in much milder weather. It's tricky to figure out what's drawing the power and draining the battery, even for an electronics guy like John. There are too many possibilities. I'm sorry to tell you that I don't remember what he said was causing the issue.
ReplyDeleteI have a plan of attack, this summer when the weather is warmer. I'm going to hook up my tester and start pulling fuses until I narrow down the circuit anyway. After that, I will have to re-evaluate to see what my next steps will be.
DeleteIt almost sounds like she doesn't need a car. Except to come home.
ReplyDeleteShe really doesn’t but unfortunately there is no mass transportation between here and there.
DeleteShe clearly spends most of her time on campus if she's going weeks at a time without starting her car!
ReplyDeleteIt is about 30 minutes of riding a bus and twenty minutes of walking to get from the dorm to her car so it is a big hassle especially in winter.
DeleteIt's probably not even close to being the same, but I have a 2003 Chevy pickup "farm truck" with a gazillion miles that spends time parked for long periods of time. The battery would go dead all the time and it also had the annoying problem of the gauges in the dash getting scrambled every time it rained.
ReplyDeleteI ended up pulling the fuses that went to the dash cluster and the interior body lights, since the dash clusters failing was a common problem with these vehicles. I don't know exactly how fast I'm driving or if the engine is going to blow up because it's overheating or has no oil pressure, but the battery seems to hold a charge a bit longer now.
It's not really an option for your daughter's car, but that's all I have.
I plan to start pulling fuses to at least identify what area is the problem. Whether it is fixable, or worth fixing remains to be seen.
DeleteYou are such and awesome do-it-yourself dad. I'm always impressed with what you get accomplished.
ReplyDeleteWhere I live is so rural it is hard to pay people to do things so one has to be pretty self reliant to live here or just live with broken things.
DeleteEd, if you aren't a superhero in your daughter's eyes, you ought to be! It definitely seems like something is draining the battery. Quality can't be that poor in all of them!
ReplyDeleteWell at least she texted me this past weekend to say it started up easily when she used it to buy a pair of running shoes! I convinced myself the first two times, it was bad luck or something had been left on accidentally. But after the third failed battery, I am no longer convinced of that.
DeleteWay to go finding a temporary solution, the real problem may be a challenge:)
ReplyDeleteI know it will be because it is largely out of my skill set and something I’ll need to learn as I go.
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