Radon: Attempt Dos
After the radon man left, he told me that the levels of gas that our detector was detecting should drop after a few days due to radon having a half-life of around three days. He also said he would be back in a couple of weeks to place a state certified radon detector/recording device in the basement for a few days to put in our file for auditing purposes.
Well only one of those things really happened.
While the radon did come back with his detector/recorder and set it up, our levels displayed by our reader never really changed all that much. They might have gone down just a little but not nearly enough as promised. Thinking it might be just a calibration issue since mine was cheap and purchased (probably from China) over the internet and the radon man's recorder probably cost as much as a cheap new vehicle, I hoped it would display different results.
Three days later he came back to print out the results and pick up his device and while they were slightly less than what I was seeing on our units, it was still a lot higher than promised. The average was just slightly below the EPA recommended limit but I had seen higher values slightly over 200% of that limit. We have also turned off our heat for the most part which helps decrease the values overall.
So the radon man came back to seal so more cracks on the concrete floor he could get to after I shuffled our storage room all around. We also talked about next steps since neither of us felt that the extra sealing would tip the scales significantly. One of those steps is what the picture above is indicating. What you are looking at is the backside of our downstairs shower. For some reason, whomever built the house didn't bother installing any wall surface so the shower tub/surround is seen. Although we couldn't see with flashlights, we both suspect given the age of the house, that the drain for said tub probably goes through a large rectangular hole cut in the slab concrete to give the plumbers wriggle room in hooking everything up. Holes in the slab are bad when it comes to radon and modern house builders don't leave these holes anymore.
So we talked about sealing that area off from the rest of the house. Since the radon man was busy, I did that work myself which involved cutting up closed cell foam and fitting it around various obstructions in the wall cavity in hopes of tightly sealing everything. I did my best to get the foam tightly fitting but still has small gaps so I bought some caulking and made sure everything was sealed up tightly. For some reason, though I had been looking for clear caulking, I bought black caulking. Since all of that will get covered up further, it wasn't a deal breaker and actually in the dim lighting of my storage room, the black made it easier to do a thorough job.
The radon man is going to drop off a scrap of some radon blocking fabric which he says will seal up everything tightly but needs to be protected with some sort of board from punctures. I just happened to have two scrap sheets that came on either side of my expensive plywood as a protective barrier which I bought for the altar project that fit the bill nicely. Above is one of those pieces cut up and loosely held in place for now. I will do a more permanent job once the radon fabric is in place.
For now, I will continue to monitor our detector to see if that moves the needle any. If our theory is correct, it should move it in a meaningful way. If not, the other alternative is to cut a hole in the wall of the bathroom and stick a pipe through the floor there. This can be done low to the floor and in the corner but will be visible no matter how it is done. This will draw a vacuum beneath the slab on the other side of the footer that divides our house in half and should do a better job at vacating the radon before it gets sucked up through cracks and holes in the concrete. It will also render what I have just done obsolete but this didn't cost me more than a sheet of foam and a couple tubes of caulking. To do the other will require a significant additional expense.
Does your area have a lot of granite underneath the soil? Supposedly, that is why our area has radon issues. Our county is supposed to be lower than the surrounding counties, and doesn't require radon abatement in new homes. I think the real reason has to do with leadership being lazy, but the more modern and tight housing makes it more of a problem. Good luck!
ReplyDeleteNo. Our radon comes from glacial deposits from the last ice age that dropped uranium rich till from northern states onto our back yards.
DeleteIt is a good thing that you have the DIY and engineering skills that you do. This situation would flummox many people.
ReplyDeleteI would gladly pay others to do these sorts of things if I could find people and they did good work. The latter problem is a problem for me because I'm picky on how things get done.
DeleteSorry you still have problems, hopefully the fixes will help.
ReplyDeleteWell thus far, I think it did make a significant improvement. I have seen it only creep to just slightly above the EPA recommended limits for the U.S. once in the two weeks since I did the sealing above. I would still like to see it a bit lower to meet stricter European limits but may save that project for another time.
DeleteWow! Hope the latest radon solutions solves your problem, Ed. Good luck.
ReplyDeleteIt ended up making an improvement in levels but I still would like to improve it a bit more at some point in the future.
DeleteI hope the problem is quickly resolved.
ReplyDeleteIt is better than it was but I would still like to see it better. At least it is to the point I'm not so worried about my child's health who has a bedroom in the basement for a few more summers anyway.
DeleteI'm sorry you're dealing with that; it sounds like a pain in the rear!!
ReplyDeleteIt is just one of those things we have to deal with in the Midwest. I'm sure everyplace has some things that are just the facts of living there. I just wish I had done it 12 years ago and not ignored/hoped it wasn't an issue.
DeleteNever heard of a radon problem here. No glaciers. But lots of roaches and occasional centipedes.
ReplyDeleteProbably not a lot of uranium ore gets ejected out of volcanoes.
DeleteIf nothing else, I suppose you are learning something from this. Maybe these are things you didn't care to know about, but still educational.
ReplyDeleteYes, but I wish I had learned this lesson a decade ago.
DeleteRadon avoidance seems to be partly an industry crock. Guess cities have codes, and we get funny looking pipes rising along our exterior. The rest of us are supposed to expire sooner. Makes me want to hire Erin Brockovich. Good luck with the sealing up. Linda in Kansas, where cow fumes might be more of a problem.
ReplyDeleteQuite possibly, especially when it comes to levels that are acceptable. But it is a none carcinogen and I'm all for reducing my exposure to any of those.
DeleteI've never seen this thorough of a discussion on radon. It's a bother for you but your experience is valuable for your readers too.
ReplyDeleteI haven’t seen it talked about much in recent decades so thought it was good to mention it again.
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