Tuesday, August 17, 2010

Muslims, Mosques and Fear

Mr. Sherman has a good post on the subject of the proposed mosque near Ground Zero and I encourage all to read that first but all the comments to his blog got me to thinking. To those who feel that the mosque located a block and a half from ground zero is not in good taste, please answer the following questions.

1. How many blocks away from the former World Trade center would it be acceptable to build a mosque and remain in good taste?

2. How many years after September 11, 2001 must 'Ground Zero' and the blocks encompassed in your answer to question 1 remain off limits to any new mosques?

3. How many blocks away from the site of the former Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma should Catholics (Timothy McVeigh's religion) be prohibited from building new churches and for how many years after April 19, 1995 should they not do so to be in good taste?

4. How many blocks away from Pearl Harbor should Buddhist temples (largest Japanese religion) be prohibited from being built and for how long after December 7, 1941?

5. When do we realize that not all Buddhists want to bomb ships, not all Catholics want to bomb government buildings and not all Muslims want to fly planes into tall buildings?

I think our Current Occupant should have kept his mouth shut on this issue because it is a local issue and not one that concerns the general welfare of this country. In doing so, like he did in the Henry Louis Gates Jr. affair, he only opened up a huge can of worms. But he did and we now debate the consequences. I think this should have been an example of our greatness by saying that we welcome Muslims (or any faith) to build their building with a prayer room even if they wanted to do it across the street from 'ground zero' and not a block and a half away. We could have shown the world, that we aren't like those extremists who try to lump Americans into one giant group of evil. But instead we showed that we aren't too much different than everyone else by lumping everyday Muslims and Taliban extremists into the same category.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself - Franklin D. Roosevelt

14 comments:

Frank D. Myers said...

Exactly

Vince said...

It's at times like this that Ted Kennedy is missed. He had the knack of bleeding the steam from pressure cooker situations like this.
He had stature whether you liked him or not. Or even if you were of his party or not.

And like Frank d said. Exactly.

Murf said...

Sometimes, I love you Ed. :-) Finally a voice of reason (although I haven't read R's piece yet but I have a feeling it's the opposite of this...and yes, it scares me that I just called you a voice of reason). I too was wondering how far was o.k. to build..and is it really a mosque per se? I heard it called a Muslim Cultural Center...or is that the PC way of saying 'mosque' since one is not allowed to say that word in the U.S.?

geri said...

I remember when I was in Manila my officemates were leery of Muslims and didn't get why. I lived in the visayas, and there were Muslims, they were known as"isug" (without fear) but they hardly got into trouble, not as much as the Catholics which largely populated the Philippines. I feel bad for them because the troubles in Mindanao put them into bad light lumping them together with the handful of the troublemakers.

That's the same way I feel about the mosque near Ground Zero. You brought up good questions to make those who are opposed to it something to think about. I applaud the President's remark on Friday, wish he didn't retract them on Saturday. But you have a point about it being a local issue.

Vince said...

Mosque or cultural centre. It's the same thing.
Our problem is the mind picture of a building of religious significance is a church. And that picture we have for Islam is the Hagia Sophia which was a Christian church.

Murf said...

It's not the same thing to the people who want to build it. They aren't calling it a mosque, they are calling it a cultural center probably in hopes of avoiding this debate.

Ed said...

Murf - It scare me too to be called a voice of reason by you. I've heard it will have offices, a gym, workout area and a floor for prayer. I don't know if that qualifies as a mosque or not as I have never been to one. At the end of the day, I don't think it matters what anyone calls it.

sage said...

Good questions, Ed!

Ron said...

Right on, good questions to ask of any move to label groups of people or take away their freedoms.

BTW - on the library checkouts of fishing rods - they do that here at the local library, but it is sponsored by the MO Dept of Conservation... obviously, they have a vested interest in getting kids interested in fishing as it generates future revenue. Prior to regulation, people fished things to the brink of extinction. So, I dunno what the answer is, but if rods and reels are funded by fishing licenses, it doesn't seem like such a bad thing. We consider the library the hub of our community here... obviously that's not true in all locations. My three cents.

Ron

Ed said...

Ron - That is a very interesting thought that the fishing gear may have not been financed by the library. In fact, I'm guessing that they are merely providing a location to pick it up like your library in Missouri. That makes a lot more sense.

Bone said...

A very common sense, reasonable opinion on the matter, I think. How refreshing.

I've wondered that #1 question to myself a few times.

PhilippinesPhil said...

Your arguments are ridiculous Ed. Voice of reason? Yeah right. McVeigh didn't shout out religious battle cries to his Catholicism when he saw the plume of smoke in his rear view mirror. He did what he did despite the religion he was born into, while the 9-11 attackers shouted Allahu Akbar at the moment of impact. Rauf wants to name that building after Cordoba, the site in Spain where the Muslims defeated "the infidels" on the Iberian Peninsula establishing 800 years of Muslim rule there. Coincidence? They chose THAT site to build a monument to another Islamic victory called 9-11. There is no Muslim population in that part of Manhattan to justify that "mother of all mosques." Freedom of religion does exist here, but so does freedom of speech. You folks are in the minority on this one, smug in your PC as you are. That thing will NOT be built, not THERE.

Three Score and Ten or more said...

I have mixed personal feelings about the mosque, but I have no mix of feelings about the Constitution and if one seriously believes in the function of the Constitution one must accept the fact that under that document, barring extraneous things, it is non of our darn business who worships where, what or who.

PhilippinesPhil said...

Obviously you didn't read a word of what I said. This is not a question of worship. This building is not for worshipping, its a monument to a victory. Anyway, I said my piece; you folks continue talk amongst yourselves.